Para 9mm double stack?

[Gregg]

Does anyone have and opinion,  or experience with a para 9mm double stack?  I think it is called an 18-9.

[CDP45]

Lots of jaming problems out of the box.  Trigger pull is lousy.  Competent gunsmith (Will in Chino) can fix them up pertty good but cost $$$

[Mossbergman]

I think Frank Perkins has one and had problems too. Can't remember exactly what, but got it fixed and seemed happy now.

[Brian]

I think if you're going to put the money into a Para double stack (gun $$ + gunsmith $$) you'd be better off in .40 caliber - then you could shoot it Limited Major (and Limited-10 Major).

[Gregg]

Thanks for the reply guys.   I am interested in 9mm for lower recoil and cheaper reloading costs.  I already have my glock 21 for limited 10 major.  One or two other people have warned me about jamming.    Also why such a crappy trigger for a medium priced gun?

[Mike S]

I am interested in 9mm for lower recoil and cheaper reloading costs

I don't think that loading for .40 costs much more than loading for 9mm.   I also don't think that the perceived recoil when shooting in a match is much different between 9mm and .40.   Are you sure that you want a 1911 style double stack?  You're shooting your Glock 21 really well; why not get a Glocl 34 or Glock 35 to shoot either limited minor or limited?

MIke

[BlueOvalBruin]

Mike's right about the recoil.  Plus, the lower recoil might make the gun feel sluggish to you.  I run my production loads up to about 145PF becuse it balances the gun better for me.  Since you like the large frame glocks you can do what Kelso did and buy a G20 and get a .40 barrel for it.  You can get mag extensions that hold 20 rounds and use it in Limited.  Or do what I did and get a G20 slide to put on your G21 frame.  Anyway, don't give up on the glock just yet, you've just touched the surface of what the platform can do.

One more thing about reloading cost.  Mike's right again, the cost difference is nil if you use about the same bullet weight.  Bullets are generally priced by weight so a 140gr RN .40 costs the same as a 147gr 9mm bullet.  The .40 load might even use less powder since the wider bullets tend to be more efficient (greater surface area for the gas pressure to act on).  180's of course will cost more than 140s but not by much.  Bear Creek 140s cost $46 per 1000 and 180's cost like $54-56 per 1000.

[Gregg]

Thanks guys.  when i said reload cost and recoil,  I mean from .45 .    Now this G 20 has my interest.  Maybe a happy medium in .40 .   I could use heavy or light bullets to shoot minor or major. 

[Brian]

Thanks guys.  when i said reload cost and recoil,  I mean from .45 .    Now this G 20 has my interest.  Maybe a happy medium in .40 .   I could use heavy or light bullets to shoot minor or major. 

That' would probably be a real good frame size for you.

[Gregg]

I talked to a fellow at Pala with a Para 18-9.  He also had terrible extraction problems.  He said Pare refuses to admit there is a problem.  He had an aftermarket extractor modified and installed by a gunsmith.  He is now happy with it after trigger and other mods.     I will not buy one.  I like guns that work.  Thanks for the input guys.